Wikipedia: User talk:VinceBowdren #1

Sean now turns his attention to editing the ‘user talk’ page of the wikipedia contributor who has created the Swallows Wood page. In the start of an ‘edit war’, he sets about his views on why the Swallows Wood page should reflect his views, and this is copied below (Sean’s contributions are in italics – spelling mistakes are his):

Vince – Hi, it is always good to discuss issues rather than enter ‘edit wars’.

I make the following points:

””The nature reserve is not a ‘small copse’. It is a 60-acre site of mixed habitats. I’m still trying to work out how to make the link work well in the article, but here is a photo of one of the nature reserve’s information boards which I used as my primary source for what I have written: [1] “”

I know this area well having walked it for almost 25years. It is a copse. If you add the surrounding areas of fields then you could argue a 60 acre site. I noticed last year that plastic banners and litter had been strewn across the site by ‘environmentalists!!

”It is not unmanaged. When I passed through in December I noticed a fallen tree lying parallel to the path and the wall alongside, which had obviously not fallen in that place and alignment naturally. I’m afraid I don’t have a citation (so I haven’t made any claims in the article about the management of the nature reserve), but this was definitely a good example of woodland management in practice.”

This is FAR from evidence of management. There is no biological plan, diversity in species, felling or integration of the ecotone. I beleive the site should be managed by United Utilities but since privatisation this has reduced somewhat along the whole Longdendale valley – very sad, as Crowden used to be a fantastic area for walking.

”There are certainly intentions to perform new planting to mitigate the damage which will be caused by the bypass; upstream there is a field which is filled with newly-planted saplings, and the plans for the bypass itself include environmental measures ([2]) but it is misleading of you to imply that a planting and management schedule would be an easy and effective substitute for the loss of established habitats, let alone an ‘improvement’.”

The very fact we have a planting and management schedule implies improvement?

”There is no obvious emblem on the campaign to save swallows wood website; and even if they had adopted a swallow as their emblem, it is unfair of you to take this as evidence of their ecological or historical ignorance”

The emblem has now been removed under humiliation. it was well covered in the local press.

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